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"Your mother didn't give birth, bitch..."/ Partner dies, family prevents deregistration

2024-06-04 22:26:00, Denoncim CNA

"Your mother didn't give birth, bitch..."/ Partner dies, family

The show "Stop" is in Lushnje about the problem of a lady, who says that her co-habitant has passed away, but she has not been able to unregister him for 2 years. The lady's partner lived outside Albania and is buried in Krutje in Lushnja. Obstacle, that the deceased is not deregistered, are his relatives and the registrar does not act without their approval.

"I lived with my husband in Germany, we have a son together. We are not married, but we lived together for years and he passed away in Germany on May 8, 2022. I tried all the time with my family members to deregister my husband. But the family members don't accept because we haven't got married, even those from the municipality don't accept and they always told me that I'm not married and it doesn't belong to me. But common son, I have the right that I have the right to my son and I have the right to ask for the death certificate, but they don't give it to me and that's why I came here and asked you for help because I don't know what else to do . None of the family members agree to the deregistration and they don't want me to do it," said the whistleblower.

Journalist:  Meanwhile, your son is in his father's family tree, right?

Complainant:  We both have registration and residence there. We live there, every time we go there we argue about this, they tell me to get out of the house because we can't get to the house.

Stop addresses the Krutje and Raqi Administrative Unit, the employee of this office says that there are also people who have passed away for 50 years and have not been deregistered.

Complainant:  I came here other times to deregister my husband.

Assistant:  Let's know, how many documents are needed for deregistration.

Civil Status:  The family should also be aware that the son, brother of that family is being deregistered.

Assistant:  So how many documents do we need to know?

Civil Status:  Death certificate, from there with apostille stamp! Then the death is done by the relatives of the family, of the victim and they must be aware and I have informed them and they told me, if the person is coming, let us know so that we can also come, because you are not married, celebrated with that. I also asked the directorate and they told me that you should inform the family members. Family members have told me that without the family's OK, don't do it.

Assistant:  Is this legal, since 2 years since the deceased still exists?

Marital status:  There are also 20 years and 15 years.

Assistant:  Is it legal?

Civil Status:  There are still 50 years unregistered.

Assistant:  Is it legal?

Marital Status:  Not legal.

After the whistleblower submits all the required documents, she runs into the family of her deceased partner, with whom she also has a son, at the civil status office. The partner's relatives curse and insult him, threatening him and the registrar.

Assistant:  We just came to do that check-out.

Marital Status:  Should I notify them?

Assistant:  Yes!

Civil Status:  (Talks on the phone with family members) Then these people came here with these documents, to do the death registration. Come with Melinda here, because we don't talk on the phone! Yes, I didn't even have a mother's name or a grandmother's name, kid. Data of Mxxx.

Family members:  Did your mother Mxxxx give birth? Did your mother give birth to Mxxxx?

Complainant:  He is my son's father.

Relatives:  He is the boy's father, but he is nothing of yours.

Complainant:  This is mine, my child's.

Family members:  It is not.

(The debates begin) - The words are not understood

Family members: I don't like it. Give me a drop. When they are yours, why do I have this? Why did I get these? Buche! Where were you? Where did you go? Buche em*tit! Yyyy…

Family member:  For the conversation we came for, you said that we can do it even after 7 years and after 10 years.

Assistant:  May I ask you a question? Ignorant question!

Civil Status:  I'm talking, you interrupt me. Mine is talking! Please!

Assistant:  Then don't raise your voice! What is this reaction that you make towards me?

Civil Status:  Shhsh...!

Assistant:  By what right?

Civil Status:  Read this here! For the performance of actions, the civil status office accepts only original acts or documents. Vajti, received the seal at our embassy and at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. It was ready to be deregistered.

Assistant:  Yes!

Civil Status:  I said I will notify the family members, because I notified the family members and they said no, until we come. Now I am doing the actions. I will do! You go fix it! Put the name here, this is Mxxxx, I put the last name Lxxxxx!

Assistant:  Ok!

Stop has again gone to the Civil Status of Krutje to clarify the details of this case to the end.

Civil Status:  Death notification is made by each major member of the family. This is not in the family tree. It is not registered in the Civil Registry.

Journalist:  Cohabitation is not forbidden today.

Civil Status:  Who is denying it? It is cohabitation, whether or not there is a contract, they know that cohabitation is done with a declaration to the notary.

Journalist:  What happens in those cases when there is no family member? Who deregisters that person when he has no family members?

Civil Status:  They agreed to do it, but when I look here (document) there was an error in the first and last name. I gave them change it and let's do it.

The civil registrar again refuses to issue the deregistration certificate. By means of a hidden camera, the informant talks to him again, asking to deregister her deceased roommate.

Complainant:  If she was a mother, she would have done that work.

The mother of the deceased:  I'll say it again, you'll have a bad time with me, that's all I'm saying, we're peasants.

Civil Status:  The deregistration will simply take place, no record will be kept, nothing.

Mother of the deceased:  Raq, don't do anything!

Civil Status:  Okay, do what you want!

Found in these conditions, Stop has turned to the General Directorate of Civil Status in the Ministry of the Interior to request a solution regarding the deregistration of the deceased and a measure against the Civil Status employee./ tvklan





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