"Luli doesn't know what he's saying, it's a problem in itself"/ Berisha recounts conversations with Basha since 2021

2024-12-12 22:06:00, Politikë CNA

"Luli doesn't know what he's saying, it's a problem in

The head of the Democrats, Sali Berisha

Invited to "Opinion", former Prime Minister Sali Berisha revealed for the first time in the studio that before he was placed on the black list of the United States of America, he had decided to leave his mandate.

During the interview, Berisha recounted all the conversations he had with Lulzim Basha since 2021. He confessed why he entered the campaign and what he talked about with Basha after he was expelled from the DP parliamentary group as a result of "non women".

On the other hand, Berisha said that Luli does not know what he is saying, according to the head of the DP, he is a problem on his own.

Blendi Fevziu: Why should an Albanian, it can be a dilemma, vote for Sali Berisha who 11 years ago resigned and said he will leave politics? There are whole generations who grew up, saw you as president and today they say Sali Berisha himself said in 2013 I completed my mission, after 11 years it returns again. Why should they vote for you as prime minister?

Sali Berisha: Why after he left? Because Sali Berisha had left definitively and unequivocally and I was preparing for the next four months to hand over the mandate of the deputy because there is always a time for decisions. What happened? There was a sanction on corrupt lobbying.

Blendi Fevziu: You were preparing to hand over the mandate?

Sali Berisha: Absolutely yes!

Blendi Fevziu: I had never heard this before?

Sali Berisha: Absolutely yes.

Blendi Fevziu: So even though you were on the list and won the 2021 elections in September, you would not go to parliament, would you hand over your mandate?

Sali Berisha: In 2021, for the citizens to know, after I did a 1-year campaign included in this studio here to convince Albanians for the leader of the DP, Lulzim Basha, we had this debate with each other. I would not run. But since the influence in DP is high, not running can harm us, and in case I run, I run only for this purpose. He asked me to go to Shkodër.

Blendi Fevziu: You told Basha that you are ready not to run?

Sali Berisha: Absolutely yes.

Blendi Fevziu: Basha has always said that you asked him?

Sali Berisha: Lëreni çfarë thotë. Ai çfarë thotë në mëngjes nuk thotë në darkë. Është problem ai me veten e tij. Por unë të them që kam qenë shumë i vendosur. Më ka propozuar të shkoj në Shkodër. I them jo, sepse e ndajmë fushatën dhe mediat për të të injoruar komplet ty do merren me mua, do japin aktivitetet e mia, por unë jam i interesuar të fitojë PD-ja jo Sali Berisha. Dhe nuk do bëj fushatë. Nuk gjen, qoftë një çerek ore fushatë të Sali Berishës në 2021. E bëri Kamala Harris fushatën, i doli Obama në krah. U ça fushata. Nuk çahet fushata.

Blendi Fevziu: Për këtë arsye nuk dole?

Sali Berisha: Sigurisht për këtë arsye.

Blendi Fevziu: Për këtë arsye zoti Berisha nuk reaguat kur Basha thoshte teza qesharake që unë futa Shqipërinë në NATO, unë bëra Rrugën e Kombit, apo unë hapa vizat? Se unë e kam pasur këtu në studio dhe kam pasur 4 gazetarë që filluan të qeshnin.

Sali Berisha: Cili ka qenë qëndrimi im? Unë i kam thënë kryekëshilltarit të tij që me këtë veprim bëtë një gabim shumë të madh sepse gazetarët atë do ta delendisin si në ring. Nuk mund të themi gjëra që s’janë. Më e bukura ma sollën ta shoh përpara. Bënin edhe ata atë analizën e tyre. Unë i kam thënë ama nuk mund të dilni me mashtrime para shqiptarëve. Erdhi këtu në studio e mbajtën me mëshirë gazetarët në debat me ju. I them Asafit, e patë? Po tha kishit të drejtë. Këto nuk ishin të miat, por nuk mund të protestoja publikisht në mes të fushatës.

Blendi Fevziu: Ju kishit vendosur të dorëzonit mandatin?

Sali Berisha: Po do e dorëzoja.

Blendi Fevziu: Vetëm shpallja non grata ju detyroi të qëndronit?

Sali Berisha: Not only the declaration non grata. When I was declared non grata, what did I say to him? Filip Rikër has arrived and said this. Tell him, I told him that the list of deputies can never be made by anyone other than Albanians. Which other country in the world has not helped the Albanians on the way to freedom as much as the USA, but they have never made a list of deputies because then it is a colony. Therefore this cannot happen. He comes out, waits for September 9 and announces it under great pressure from the ambassador, etc. I take him on the phone and say look. You made a completely baseless decision, but regardless, gather the National Council or the group of deputies or the party Assembly. He replied, I don't hold anti-American meetings. I told him that this anti-American meeting is a meeting for the rule of law, for the rules, we have a statute, it is our Constitution. We must implement the statute. No, no, he said, I don't hold anti-American meetings. Before Riker came I had told him. This problem of my sanctioning is a personal problem and the party will not interfere in this matter. I God's help, hot's rifle. I later found out that it was Hotian who told me what this means. I told him it means that I have a feather for a rifle and I will fight. I sued Antony Blinken and started with the American media.

Blendi Fevziu: My question was why an Albanian will vote for you when you returned 11 years after you left yourself, is it because you were forced to return? Sali Berisha: If you were to imagine, imagine a process where Albanians see the Albanian today there are no left-right, center-right Albanians who do not consider Sali Berisha the main defender of Albanians and Albanian dignity. This whole comeback didn't come about for myself. I sued the secretary. I did the task. The world found out that I sued him. That's when they found out that he had sanctioned me. In this context, if Albanians are interested in Albanianism, in the dignity of the Albanian, they have a strong reason. Secondly, every Albanian votes for Sali Berisha because they know that he keeps his word